A Thousand Years As One Day
Biblical References
According to the word of God, recorded in the Holy Bible, there are dramatic differences in the way that Heaven and Earth perceives time. We know this because there are two places in the Holy Bible where we are provided the same information regarding the differences.
| Psalm 90:4 |
| 4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. |
| 2 Peter 3:8 |
| 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. |
So, we see that one day in Heaven is proportional to 1000 years on Earth.
Presenting the Problem
Our problem is solved proportionally though the information we have is not proportionate. For instance, a day is determined by the amount of time a celestial object takes to rotate upon its axis and a year is defined by the amount of time it takes a celestial object to orbit around the Sun, nevertheless, with one assumption, we know enough to solve this problem.
Approaching the Problem
We assume that one day in Heaven is split into 24 equal parts, which is possibly explained by Einstein’s theory of Special Relativity or specifically the Twin paradox where the time on Earth is accelerated greatly due to its apparent “light-speed” rotation -relative to Heaven.
Solving the Problem
For every hour that passes by in Heaven, how much time has passed by on Earth?
Let,
a = 24 hours
b = 1000 years
Thus,
b/a = 41.66 years (41 years, 7 months, 27 days, 14 hours, 24 minutes)
For every minute that passes by in Heaven, how much time has passed by on Earth?
Let,
a = 24*60 minutes
b = 1000 years
c = 12 months
Thus,
b/a*c = 8.33 months (8 months, 28 days, 19 hours, 12 minutes)
For every second that passes by in Heaven, how much time has passed by on Earth?
Let,
a = 24*60*60 seconds
b = 1000 years
c = 12*30 days
Thus,
b/a*c = 4.16 days (4 days, 3 hours, 50 minutes, 24 seconds)
For every millisecond that passes by in Heaven, how much time has passed by on Earth?
Let,
a = 24*60*60*1000 milliseconds
b = 1000 years
c = 12*30*24*60 minutes
Thus,
b/a*c = 6 minutes
For every microsecond that passes by in Heaven, how much time has passed by on Earth?
Let,
a = 24*60*60*1000*1000 microseconds
b = 1000 years
c = 12*30*24*60*60*1000 milliseconds
Thus,
b/a*c = 360 milliseconds
This information suggests that if those in heaven looked upon the earth, then they would see it spinning like a top! This is exciting information that could explain a lot more!
Conclusion
To know God well is to know but a fraction of His might. Therefore, we may not understand all of the mysteries of God and His creation, but it is certainly worth the effort to try. So, we hope that you enjoyed this article as much as we enjoyed the challenge of discussing it.
Keep searching.
DIVINECODERS
UPDATE: Checkout the follow-up to this article, Proving Universal God Time.
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Hey guys I am new here. This website is very helpful in the building up of the Kingdom of God, and the body of Jesus Christ for His glory. I stumbled upon it not long ago when I was searching for something in particular. Is your coding only restricted to Mathematical, Gematrical or Atbash? Or is it also Scriptural. There is also Scriptural coding. I am so interested to know. Please let me know. Many Blessings!
Hey Andrene,
Good question. Our calculations are based solely upon scripture and our presentation is the result of our analysis and understanding of scripture which regretfully is often contrary to mainstream teaching.
In terms of seeking esoteric or hidden meanings found in the Bible, we no longer share that mindset, instead we find that God has already provided the answers plainly in His word.
We believe that God’s word does not require esoteric knowledge in order to comprehend it. Instead it requires dedication to dive deep and study His word, discernment to rightfully divide it, and time for things to become more clear when they are not so readily discernible.
Remember, all of us can obtain biblical truth through patience, dedication, and above all, prayer.
Keep searching,
DIVINECODERS
Thank you Divinecoders, I appreciate you.
Has the question of how old the earth actually is in God’s time ever been answered, keeping with the biblical references stated in 2 Peter 3:8 ?
Hi Wendy,
Great question and sort of. As we were attempting to provide you with that seemingly simple answer we found ourselves debating timelines. Stay tuned, this might just become a new article.
DIVINECODERS
Very good explanation. If we were able to calculate Astronomically I hope it might be 1000 years of rotating the earth round the Sun.
Thank you so much
Great article DivineCoders! We can definitely prove and defend the 1000 years = 1 Day to God within other scripture. Specifically when God speaks, when He mentions a Day, it = 1000 years. First example, Genesis 2:17 – “but from the of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the DAY you eat of it you will surely die.” Hence why Adam and Eve didn’t die that specific 24 hour period on earth, but within the Millennial. No one has lived over 1000 years, all have died. More significant why Jesus will reign for 1000 years in His glory. Example 2 – Acts 2:17- “It shall be in the last DAYS, ‘That I will pour out my Spirit on all mankind.’ Last 2000 years from when the Spirit was given. When the Good Lord is speaking and mentions a Day, this = 1000 years to us. Keep up the great work DivineCoders!
Awesome stuff love it keep up the goood work.
When GOD creations completed in 6 days is this days according to heaven or earth ?
Hi Saveen,
According to the Holy Bible, each day of creation did not require the sun and moon in order for both day and night to occur as was written. The sun and moon weren’t even created until the 4th day. Thus, the days of creation, in terms of duration, are to be understood in terms of Universal God Time.
Thanks,
DIVINECODERS
Thank you for your immediate response.
which means all 7 days is equal to 7000 years as per the current calculation ??
Indirectly the entire universe is 7000 years old ?
Hi Saveen,
Good questions. The simple answer is, no. Technically each day of creation from the 4th day onward could have been literal 24 hour days, since at this point the sun and moon would exist. However, the context of Genesis does not require a short period of time and should be calculated using UGT. Time only becomes important after the advent of Adam, which happened at the very end of the 6th day. From the 7th day onward we can begin using earth time and UGT, where from man’s perspective the time on earth is a 24 hour period, while from God’s perspective time is constant and has not changed; therefore, both UGT and earth time continue forward in parallel.
Yes, from day 1 onward, what we know of the universe is approximately the same age as the earth. If what is beyond our knowledge and sight existed before us and for how long, we cannot tell. However, from day 1 until now, we can calculate the age of creation with some surety to be about 12,000 to 15,000 earth years old or 12 to 15 days UGT.
Thanks,
DIVINECODERS
Hi there
Can you please explain what you mean?
“Thus, the days of creation, in terms of duration,
are to be understood in terms of Universal God Time.”
and also your odd comment,
“Time only becomes important after the advent of Adam,
which happened at the very end of the 6th day.”
The days were 1, 2,3,4,5,6,7. Morning and evening etc.
In other words, chronological – time ordered –
not unimportant at all.
“In the beginning” sounds important too.
Hi Leigh,
Because our time is determined by how quickly we rotate upon our axis relative to the position of the sun and since the sun was not created until the 4th day of creation, then it is not possible to use earth time in respect to the days of creation -not until at least the 4th day that is. However, why start there, time would be unimportant until the creation of mankind, because we are given a limited lifespan after the fall. Perhaps then we could say time isn’t important until after the fall which would have happened at the end of day 6.
DIVINECODERS
Correction: If a day equals a thousand years and I only need 7 years out of that thousand years, how many minutes or seconds would that 7 years equal [using a 360 day year] ? Omit the previous question as I forgot to add the notation about the 360 day year. Thanks!
Hello Mj Olds,
Using the Thousand Years As One Day calculator (See bottom of article for link) we find:
7 earth years is equivalent to 0:10:5:769 UGT
If you pay close attention to our article you will find that it uses a 360 day calendar, where we assert that each month is equal to 30 earth days.
DIVINECODERS
All news is a distraction from planet x “wormwood in the Holy Bible. The Holy Spirit told me on 7/10/2016 the count down from today planet x will arrive so that means it will arrive on 7/10/2017. I was born Nov 29 the 333rd day of the year we all know 3s represent the Holy Trinty. God put a man on earth that is brave enough to speak to his children!!!
Ronald Nathan Freeland Law..
Thank you for the teachings. Love it!
I looked at this a different way, thinking that Elohim’s day is 1000 years, 120 cycles of Jubilee Years. I arrived at that understanding from a Rabbi having taught that Genesis 6:3 does not include the word “years” at the end of that verse when reading the Torah. I do not read Hebrew and once asked another Rabbi if the word “years” was, in fact, included and he told me it was off the top of his head but would not look to confirm that. So I’ve seen this as 120 cycles of Jubilee Years giving us His 6000-year time frame for us to show Him how well we would be at leading men to peace on this planet before He uses one heavenly Shabbat to show us how He is able to accomplish the task. That, to my thinking, would make each Jubilee the celebration of another hour having passed, and our Father wanting us to share in His joy that His Kingdom is that much closer. Also, 7 cycles of 7 Shabbats of the land, plus one year has seemed to me to be a tiny bit of a confirmation based on counting the Omer being tied in as well. In that system, his days would be 20 “hours” (of 50 years, long), 1000 years, and each of our years would amount to one of His “minutes”. I’ve said this badly but it has helped me understand the idea. It seems like we complicate some things that could be more simply understood and simplicity works for me.
Hi Archie,
Thank you for reaching out to us. Yes, the word years (shnim) does exist in Psalms 90:4. And, we would like to give you a gift: http://www.scripture4all.org
That link will help you to dive deep into Hermeneutics. A wonderful resource for those hungry for the word of God. Please use this reference to study your Bible.
Thanks!
DIVINECODERS
Kia ora,
I was wondering if there are calculations for part b of 2 Peter 3:8 “a thousand years as one day.” Based on this part, a day on Heaven will be super fast. Or if you can direct me to a site that has the calculation.
Thanks,
Ta.
Hi Ta,
There is no part b to this equation. 2 Peter 3:8 simply confirms the proportional differences between time on earth and time in heaven by providing us a view from earth’s perspective where Psalms 90:4 provides us a view from heaven’s perspective.
To calculate from God’s perspective or from earth’s perspective, you may use our online calculator at:
http://www.divinecoders.com/thousand-years-as-one-day.php
Thanks!
DIVINECODERS
My friend, you gave me most important knowledge, about 1 DAY (on earth) God bless you. thank you.
Great work ! From the bottom of my heart and soul
A very interesting read above, just saying, who’s to say? In the beginning meaning there was no time before that and the end meaning no time after that. Jesus said I am alpha and omega the beginning and the end, we are to believe in Him not time. I believe time is irrelevant with God, he gave the world to man and with it came time. For God so Loved the world (people) that He gave His only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting (no time) life. Let us introduce Salvation to sinners and God can tell us how long we’ll be here. Once appointed to man is death and after that the judgement.Let us remember we’re just passing through…….
I have read this article, it does make sense. We all know in Genesis, our father created the Heavens and Earth and everything within it, which in fact took god 6 days
(one day heaven = 1000 yrs earth) which mean earth is 6 thousand years old? if we count the total numbers of all civilizations, biblical and use historical facts, example : Egyptians 6 thousand years old. Sumerians 10000 years old etc, etc…. the earth isn’t billions years old as scientist say it is….
Does this mean that 1000 years in heaven is as one day on earth? If Jesus was gone to the belly of the earth to teach those who needed to believe for salvation then couldn’t he have been gone 3000 years to be perceived as three days on earth?
Another thought I have had is that he was crucified and went to heaven if 1000 years is as one day here, then he could, and no one knows, especially me, in the year 3000 AD? 985 more years here on earth in earth time then the second coming. I am just asking, I guess I am slow and have a hard time following the explanations. I want to understand and not be mislead by my own feeble mind!
Hi Brenda,
You’ve got it backwards, one day in Heaven equals 1000 years on earth. So, Jesus was not dead for 3000 years from any perspective. From our perspective here on earth, the Lord, Jesus Christ was dead for 3 earth days before He was risen. Using the Thousand Years As One Day Calculator we find that from God’s perspective this lasted ~710 milliseconds (UGT), which is incredibly fast.
0.00821373 [3 days] earth year is equivalent to 0:0:0:710 UGT
http://www.divinecoders.com/thousand-years-as-one-day.php
DIVINECODERS
I applaud the research but it is unstable. The creation cannot go from 6000 years then switch back to a 24 hour period when you decide without scripture that would indicate this. The application of 1000 years cannot be applied through out the whole bible. This would render the bible itself stupid. Was Jonah in the whale 3000 years. Did the children of Israel stay in bondage 40.000 years. This is miss application. You will find that a 1000 years for a day only apply to time prophecy. They can be found in Daniel and revelation. You will find the time for the messiah coming was exact. The time of his death exact. The rise of different kingdoms such as Babylon Greece med/persia and Rome. History for the past and future is given. Also tells who is the beast . Study study prove the bible and let it prove it self. The text you use saids that a day is like 1000 it does not say it is. Let the bible explain itself. It must be applied correctly.
The bible is clear that nothing should be added to or taken away from scripture. Also if used it must agree with all the prophets of the received text. This meaning I can also find it in the bible. The book of Enoch is not part of the bible and things in it cannot be even in context be found with any of the received text thus this would be adding. Unstable ground.
The reason that our time is perceived differently than God’s time is because of two major reasons: 1) Gravitational Time Dilation which is caused by the earth’s orbit around the sun, and 2) the fact that God is unaffected by this. For, God is sovereign, therefore, He perceives time universally, which is 360,000 times faster than how we perceive earth time.
The earth rotates at 1041.667 miles/hour, but to God, from Heaven’s perspective, the earth is rotating at 1041.667 miles/10 ms which is nearly the speed of light!! Therefore, those who perceive the earth from the perspective of Heaven see the earth spinning like a top!!
All of this is explained by Einstein’s theory of Special Relativity, more specifically the Twin Paradox.
If He did not want us to know this information, then He would not have allowed it to be revealed in Psalm 90:4 and He certainly would not have allowed it to be clarified in 2 Peter 3:8. In terms of our calculations, our only reference is the Holy Bible, and we can verify them using science, as we did in Proving Universal God Time.
One must apply Universal God Time where it is appropriate. Clearly, Jesus was in the belly of the earth for 3 days, not 3000 years, so where does it become appropriate, well one place is in Genesis 1, for God spoke of a day and night, before the sun was created. Are we to assume that each God day was a 24 hour period without first having the possibility of a 24 hour period? Wouldn’t that be “adding” to the Bible? Clearly, we have not made that mistake.
DIVINECODERS
Could this 1000 yers as 1 day and 1 day a 1000 years not also just be a reference to the cocept that God is outside out time and since no man has ever lived to be 1000 years thats why God used that number to signify that God’s perspective of time is not comprehendable to man? One issue I have found with the concept that the earth was created in 6 “days” and each “day” lasted 1000 years is that the plants need the sun to survive yet the plants were created the day (1000 years) before the sun. So how could the plants survive for 1000 years with no sun?
Hi Scott,
Yes, the fact that 1 day to God is the same as 1000 years on earth does indeed suggest that God is outside and unaffected by our time.
The true issue one should have is the fact that God spoke of a day and night before the creation of the sun and moon. So, how do you think this division between evening and morning happened?
The answer is that God is the Light as is also described in Revelation 22:5.
DIVINECODERS
Rod – I believe your add or take away reference is from Revelation 22:18 but you are mixing scripture text with scripture meaning, two COMPLETELY different contexts. Correct we are not to add or take away from the actual wording OF scripture, but that often is far different from the underlying meaning of the text given. Keep in mind that ALL scripture IS inspired FROM or given by God. (2 Tim 3:16)
But as we often do, we attempt to understand that revelation/inspiration from a purely flesh or human mindset based solely on our prior “school system” method of reading and study instead of realizing that the original thought(s) came from God but passed through the filter of a human mind who then wrote it down. As I journey forth in this awesome path called faith, I also have come to realize that surrender pertains not just to giving our bodies and life to Christ, but has the far greater implicationto even our way of thinking, to relinquish our previous secular reasoning, definitions and meanings of ALL that is written in scripture and let God through the Holy Spirit give us the deeper truth and meaning (the real truth) to His revelation we know as scripture. Words like love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control, mercy, forgiveness, compassion, humility, integrity, wisdom, knowledge all have completely different meanings coming from God and have to literally be relearned, almost an “unlearning” first to clear out our prior meanings, then to let the Holy Spirit teach us what God truly means by them thus why I say (and teach) that even surrender applies here as well.
thanks….
Gen 1;5 And God called the light Day; and that was a 12 hour period. When I look to the first 6 ‘days’ of creation, I see it more as a running work sheet for each day god was creating, and there is no mention of what he did during his 12 hour night shift. Like a child I spread this scripture out on a line over 6 sections equal to 72 working hours, and then laid it out to begin around 3500 bc when it is suggested Adam was created. From Genesis 1;1 to genesis 1;28, 66 working hours pass and in this 66th working hour, he created them male and female. On the timeline I created, this 66th working hour comes to an end in 2000 ad, and the 67th working hour begins.
This ‘Calender’ makes for interesting reading, and study chart. Day 4 falls between 500 bc and 500 ad, and in the middle of that day, god created two great lights.
“The bible is clear that nothing should be added to or taken away from scripture.”
Which scripture? The Torah? The Apocrypha? Perhaps one of the other 200 gospels? Ultimately it was God that put the Bible together, and we know this is true because we assume it. When one feels something deep down inside, we know that it simply has to be true! How can you refute a feeling? My feeling that the Bible is true is way more pure than someone named Ali Babba who is quite sure the Quran is true. My feeling isn’t as deep as those who follow Dianetics, but it’s pretty close! Yay Bible!
The standard Jewish Generation is 40 years. Matthew 1:17 states: “So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.”
Let,
a=40 years
b=14 generations
c=3 cycles
Thus,
a*b*c=1680 years
God chose Abraham and 1680 years later, Jesus was born. Using the Thousand Years As One Day conversion tools, we converted the total number of earth years into its UGT equivalent, which is:
40:23:4:615 UGT (almost 2 God days)
God Speed!!
DIVINECODERS
Hey, brothers. While I think this is an interesting discussion, I think it misses the point and over looks the rest of the verse. It says, “But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” So doesn’t it appear to go both ways? God can spend 1000 years worth of ‘God Time’ looking at one of our days, or pass a thousand of our years in what seems a day to Him. The point being that He is outside of time, since He created it. It has no hold on Him. He can enter it, exit it, pause, fast forward, rewind it. I think His creation, maybe even the angels, are fully subject to it. But not the Creator.
Hi David,
Peter is giving us two perspectives, one perspective belongs to the Lord and the other belongs to us. Therefore, 1 day in Heaven is equal to 1000 years on earth and 1000 years on earth is equal to 1 day in Heaven. What makes it more concrete is what is said in Psalm 90:4 where it states only one perspective, the perspective of God, saying, “For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past”, and the remainder of the verse just tells us that even God is watchful at night -that even though the sun is gone, God is still with us. So, make no mistake and be not ignorant of this one thing.
He is outside of our time, but not universal time (His time). The only reason our time is not the same is because we rotate around the sun, thus causing a Gravitational Time Dilation relative to Heaven which apparently does not orbit the sun.
There is still universal time, what we call Universal God Time (UGT), that we all adhere to, but perceive differently due to the way we travel through space. Nevertheless, UGT still reigns supreme as the more accurate time, for as those who perceive, perceive it without disruption, for it remains constant, just as God remains constant.
DIVINECODERS
Facebook thumbs up! The whole point is God’s sovereignty and love us is beyond all we think and know. Trying to figure out time is like looking for that one dime in all the pennies layered several feet deep over Texas! Why try even when God’s love for us is a gift of grace, forgiveness and deep unfailing love. Hmmm. What a God! He owns the sheep, cattle and all the earth. Kind think he has a handle on time too.
Loved your thoughts on this topic!
There are 1440 minutes in 1 earth day (i.e. 24 hour period). Every millisecond that goes by in Heaven is equivalent to 6 minutes here on earth. Therefore, 1 earth day is equivalent to 240 milliseconds in Heaven.
DIVINECODERS
Hi
How did you come up with the formula to calculate the one minute in heaven vs time passed on earth?
Also how do you know that one day in heaven is split into 24 earth hours?
thx
Mike
Hi Mike,
It’s a simple calculation to determine the earth’s proportion of time relative to universal God time. The Bible tells us that the proportions are Day(x):Years(1000).
See: Psalms 90:4, 2 Peter 3:8
So, how did we know to define x as 24? (which by the way we split into 24 equal parts, not 24 earth hours) -24 representing the 24 hourly phases of rotation of heaven.
Because our earth has 24 hourly phases of rotation and a year is defined by the full orbit of a celestial body around the sun and a day is defined by the full rotation of a celestial body around it’s axis, and we know that these two events have a proportional relationship that is constant from our references above. Bottom line, it makes sense.
Interestingly, a Twin Paradox occurs due to gravitational time dilation caused by the earth’s orbit around the sun as observed by those seemingly standing still in heaven, possibly not orbiting anything at all -only rotating relatively slowly from earth’s perspective.
So, we see that there is proportion without symmetry which suggests that God is at least as old as His creation and not merely ~12 days, because we are aging together in a universal sense of time while at the same time we breakdown due to the advent of death which gives the appearance of aging more rapidly, although universally we are the same age.
DIVINECODERS
Hi
ok but how did u figure out that one minute in heaven is 8.33 months on earth? What does the asterik between the numbers mean?
Mike
Hi Mike,
Sorry, we thought you were asking about why we picked the number 24 and not some other number. The answer to your actual question is much more simple. In computing, the asterisk symbol is often used to represent multiplication. So, for example:
24*60 minutes would equal 1440 (24 x 60 or 24 times 60 or 24 multiplied by 60 -all the same result, 1440)
+ = Addition
– = Subtraction
/ = Division
* = Multiplication
Hope this helps.
DIVINECODERS
How do u get 8.33 months using the
b/a*c equation?
Thx
Mike
In a calculator one would type: 1000/(24*60)*12
DIVINECODERS
Hi
I dont get 8.33 months. I get .0578 which i know is wrong.
You must type it in the way we showed you, using the parentheses. Or, you could simply type: 1000/1440*12. 😉
DIVINECODERS
Hi
ok I finally got how you do the calculations. I was wondering if there is a code in the King James Bible that says weather pets will be in heaven or not.
Thx
Mike
We must never stray away from what is written in the Bible, So we Read in the Bible that all the work Eloah created was finished on the 6 Day, And he Rested on the seventh day, And we are to celebrate the 7th day sabbath every week, Not every 7000 years, For this is in the manner that Eloah finished his Work, Hello, This is a big clue for us, That the time frame he used is aline to our weekly 7th day cycle. Now if you want to calculate his way of time reckoning, you must remember that his timing is unlike ours, A totally different timing, but then again we are talking of the events that took place in the scriptures right?…and not of his immortal being and his timing?… For us here on earth the days of the calendar Lunisolar that is, Are a gift and a tool for us to used, and to know the appointed times of his feast days, So we could celebrate them at their appointed times from year to year, and not every 1000 years, I honestly think that you guys blew a circuit some were with this!, or unless you are Elohim’s. and then if you were Elohim’s, your way of time reckoning would not apply to humans on earth…do me a favor please stop misleading people with this non earthly way of counting time for it would never apply to us now, After the new millennium with Moshiach yes, and that would only be for those who will enter into Eternal life…And that is yet to come…Peace@love…Amein…
Hi BELEN,
Precisely, we should never stray from what is written in the Bible -including what is written in Psalms 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8; therefore, we have done exactly as you said.
We do not withhold our information from anyone, especially the lost. If God did not want us to know this information then He wouldn’t have made it available in Psalms 90:4 and He certainly would not have allowed it to be clarified in 2 Peter 3:8.
DIVINECODERS
How Long is One Day?
Interestingly, we have people in churches everywhere that are having a difficult time understanding how long ONE DAY is and of how many hours it consists.
Unfortunately, much to their shame, this is a product of false teaching that has crept into the church over the last few decades. There has been an attempt to “spiritualize” the entire Word of ELOAH and in so doing, much false doctrine, false teaching and false hope has been spread as a result. All logic, common sense and reasoning has been rejected in an attempt to project a “spiritual only” meaning in to the Word of ELOAH.
The primary verse of scripture used by those who cannot understand the concept of “A” (singular) day is 2 Peter 3:8:
“But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with YHUH as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”
People constantly read this as: “One day IS EQUAL TO one thousand years”, however, this is NOT the correct interpretation of this verse!
2 Peter 3:8 stated the 1,000 years is a day theory. As we look closely at this matter, examine your own beliefs to see what you believe. If you really believe that Peter’s statement is literal and that 1 day is literally equal to 1,000 years, then you must find support for that belief throughout the Word of ELOAH. Ask yourself: Is there any other place in the bible that supports this theory?
Let me show you how fallacious it is to believe that 2 Peter 3:8 is a mathematical equality statement. If we are to believe that one day is EQUAL to one thousand years, then we must also believe:
1. The World was created in 6,000 years, not 6 days
2. In Joshua chapter 10, the sun stood still for about 1,000 years, not just one day like the bible says.
3. Jonah was in the belly of the whale for 3,000 years, not 3 days
4. YAHUSHUA was dead and in the tomb for 3,000 years, not 3 days
5. When it rained upon the earth for 40 days and 40 nights, it really wasn’t 40 literal days, it was 40,000 years.
Do these things sound ridiculous to you? It’s because they are ridiculous statements. To believe the 1 day=1,000 years theory, you must also believe that the bible means 1,000 years each time you read of an event that happened in one day.
Friend, this is a theory that is proposed by EVOLUTION, and it is not contained in nor supported by ELOAH’S account of Creation.
In Genesis chapter 1, we read that ELOAH created the world in six days and rested on the seventh. Evolutionary theory, as taught in public schools and advocated by many books and magazines, claims the world is billions of years old.
Obviously Genesis and Evolution conflict on the age of this world. Many Christians have tried to blend the two in a position that is often called the “Day/Age Theory.” The point made is that perhaps the days of creation were not really literal 24-hours days; instead they must have been representative of a period of thousands or even millions of years or “ages” of time.
Evolution is an un-provable, unscientific speculation of ideas presented by an atheist man in a feeble attempt to offer an alternative explanation of the origin of life.
Evolutionary theory is based on the assumption that one day we will prove its truth. The Bible, however claims to be truth and challenges its readers to prove or disprove the Words contained therein.
Proof is offered throughout the book with the accuracy of its information, the complete and accurate fulfillment of its prophecies, and the miracles supporting the teachers of the Word. One has only to briefly examine the fulfillment of events predicted in the Bible to understand that the Bible is 100% accurate and truthful as it is written!
Why would anyone wish to water down Truth with speculation or supposition?
If we cannot accept that the world was created in six literal days, then can we really accept the virgin birth of YAHUSHUA? Can we believe in the bodily resurrection of MOSHIACH? Can we accept any of the promises of ELOAH concerning salvation, redemption or eternal life?
If we can accept these things as facts, why is Genesis chapter 1 any different?
If the early chapters of Genesis are just an allusion to something else or if they are only a fable, then where do the real events and people begin in the Scriptures?
Was Adam the first man, who was created shortly before Eve, or was Adam only the starting place for the written record of mankind? Is the bible true on this account of Adam and Eve? Do you believe this story?
If this is a fable or if it has some underlying spiritual meaning, then what does this make the passages based on this event, such as Romans 5:14, I Corinthians 15:21-22, or I Timothy 2:13?
If Eve was not the first to sin, then what do we do with Paul’s proof in I Timothy 2:14? Was Enoch truly the seventh descendant from Adam as Jude claims in Jude 14 or was he 7,000 generations later, or perhaps 70,000 or more generations?
Who was the first real person in MOSHIACH’S lineage in Luke 3:23-38? Was there really a universal flood as Peter refers to in II Peter 3:5-7? Will there be, as Peter stated, a time when the will one day end by fire?
We can clearly see that much of our Bible rests on the validity of the early chapters of Genesis. If the early chapters of Genesis are not factual, then what part of the Bible can we claim is true? Are we going to pick and choose which parts we like, which ones we agree with and accept, then reject the rest?
If the creation did not take place in six 24-hour days, then did it actually rain 40 days and night at the start of the flood? Was Jonah truly in the belly of the great fish for just three days? Was YAHUSHUA’ body in the tomb for three days? If we cannot accept that the world was created in six days, then we cannot prove that ANY use of the word “day” in the Bible was just a single 24-hour period.
In Matthew 19:4 and mark 10:6, YAHUSHUA himself stated that Adam and Eve were created at the beginning of creation.
What is the beginning? Six days from creation? Would that be “at the beginning”? Is “from the beginning” a few days, a few years, a few thousand years? Can you honestly claim that many millions of years later is anywhere near the beginning? Thus an additional theory of relativism must be introduced in order to coincide with the evolutionary beliefs. Relatively speaking, 1 million years is “near the beginning” when compared to 100 billion years, isn’t it? This is the thought process that evolutionists have attempted to introduce into science and ultimately into Christianity itself.
If each day of creation was actually an age of thousands or millions of years, then we run into many problems.
For example, if plants were created on the third day and this day were thousands or perhaps millions of years long, then all plants would have had to exist and reproduce for millions of years before the bee, or moth, or butterfly was created. How then, did flowers or fruit trees survive without any means of pollination or fertilization? Did they exist for thousands or millions of years without sunlight? When the sun was created on the fourth day, did it shine for a thousand years before the moon took it’s turn?
How much of the sixth “day” did Adam and Eve live? Was it 900 years? 700 years? 300? Even if they were created on the last literal day of the sixth “age” as has been suggested by some, then they would have had to live thousands or perhaps millions of years through the seventh “age” (day) in which ELOAH rested. We can know this is true because the fall of man did not occur until after that “7th day” in which ELOAH rested. If that day is equivalent to thousands or millions of years, how old was Adam when the fall occured?
Does this mean that Adam was more than 930 years old when he died? If a day was about a thousand years, then Adam, must have been 1,930 years old at his death! Do you think that Satan would have truly waited thousands of years to cause the fall of ELOAH’S creation?
How did Adam and Eve keep from having a child for a thousand years? Or do you propose that they had the ultimate birth control methods in the beginning? Perhaps Eve used “the pill”? I read that ELOAH commanded Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply. I wonder how long he waited for them to begin this?
Do you truly doubt that ELOAH could have created this world in just six 24-hour days?
If you cannot believe this, then can you truly believe that ELOAH had the power to raise MOSHIACH from the dead on the third day? Do you believe ELOAH has the power to save you? Do you believe ELOAH has the power to raise YOU from the dead in the resurrection?
It is true that the Hebrew word “yom,” which is translated as day, can sometimes refer to a general period of time, when it is used in phrases such as “in Abraham’s day” or “in his grandfather’s day”. In these types of cases, the phrase is properly stated as “in the 24-hour days that Abraham lived”.
When “yom” is preceded by a number, the word “yom” always refers to a 24-hour period.
In Genesis chapter 1, “yom” is referred to as the “first day,” the “second day,” the “third day,” and so on.
How, then, should we understand the word “yom” as applied to creation? The complete answer is found in Genesis 1, back at the beginning and in one final passage also written in 2 Peter 3. Examine these scriptures:
Genesis 1:5 And ELOAH called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Genesis 1:8 And ELOAH called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Genesis 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
Genesis 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Genesis 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
Genesis 1:31 And ELOAH saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
The remaining passage tells us:
2 Peter 3:4 “…all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.”
Notice that when ELOAH established the week for the Israelites, He gave them the six days plus the Sabbath day and compared it to the six days of creation plus the seventh day in which ELOAH rested (Exodus 20:9-11).
Genesis 2:2 And on the seventh day ELOAH ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
I tend to believe ELOAH at his Word and I believe the phrase “the evening and the morning” refer to one day equivalent to 24 of our modern hours. Do you?
The passage of 2 Peter 3:8 is speaking of “time” from the beginning of the chapter. It speaks of the last days, of scoffers who mocked of the second coming and ridiculed concerning the “time”. Peter reminded them of times past and the times to come. When examined in it’s context the passage is very simple to understand:
2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with YHUH as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Let me tell you at this point that MOST people DO NOT READ the passage as it is written and this is where people get into trouble!
Read the passage again carefully, this time with BOLD emphasis on what it says.
2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with YHUH as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
One day is with YHUH as a thousand years! The passage does not state “One day WITH” YHUH is as a thousand years. The difference?
“One day is” WITH YHUH as a thousand years means ELOAH has no concept of time. He is timeless and eternal. One day is nothing and a thousand years is nothing!
How have you been reading that passage? Look at it one final time:
One day with YHUH is as a thousand years….. (the way it is normally quoted)
One day is with YHUH as a thousand years….. (the bible)
Isn’t it amazing how A ONE WORD misquote can change the meaning? Now what will you believe? Will you believe the Word of ELOAH AS IT IS WRITTEN, or will you believe the Word of ELOAH as you WANT IT TO BE written?
Hi BELEN,
You mentioned that if we are to believe that each God day is 1000 years earth time, then that would mean that each day of creation would be 1000 earth years and not a 24 hour period of time which is precisely the case. You then go on to mention other instances of time as they are expressed in the Bible, noting where the conversion between earth time and God time breaks logic. For instance, “Did Jesus spend 3 days in the belly of the earth or did He spend 3000 years in the belly of the earth?”
Well, the answer is that He spent 3 earth days in the belly of the earth. How do we know this, well, because we have the ability to calculate earth time at this point.
Where do we not have the ability to calculate earth time? How about in Genesis? Answer us this question: How do we know how long each day is on earth? Well, we use the sun as our reference point, so on what day of creation did God create the sun?
Well, according to Genesis, He created the sun on the 4th day of creation. Therefore, why should one believe that days 1-3 where 24 hour periods? By what reference do we have to make such an assumption? Clearly, the Bible isn’t going to be that specific, so we must use logic (as you said) to figure it out.
Now, God created Adam on the 6th day, right at the end of it. Then the Bible states that God looked upon Adam and saw that it wasn’t good for him to be alone. Why is that? Is it possible that Adam, despite being hard at work naming all of the animals and working in the garden, became that bothered within a matter of hours? It appears obsessive, therefore unlikely.
Now, we aren’t trying to take anything from our God by saying that He couldn’t have created the earth in 6 earth days (i.e. 24 hour periods), in fact, He could have made it in 6 seconds if He wanted to, but that isn’t what He did. Why is that?
Perhaps, God prefers to take His time.
Now, on to your points:
2 Peter 3:4 “And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.”
Here we see a verse used out of context to suggest that everything has been the same since day one of creation, which is of course technically not true. For instance, the fall of Man changed many things, the Great Flood changed many things, and the earth continues to change both naturally and unnaturally. Therefore, we find that we cannot be that specific with our interpretation of this particular verse, but what we can do is understand that this verse is assuring us that the rain will continue to fall, the seasons will continue to change, and life as we know it will continue as it was since the beginning of creation.
In summation, we must apply God time where it is appropriate.
Thanks for sharing!
DIVINECODERS
How many god years have pass since the creation of Adam until now?
Hi BELEN,
According to the Bible -approximately 12 days UGT.
DIVINECODERS
UPDATE: Sorry, you said from the “creation of Adam until now”, so in that case, the answer would be ~6 days UGT.
I am glad I found yawl, but I am still confused….so…I’ll keep on reading. Where can I find these books and also the book of Jasher that Psrry Stone quotes so often?
actually i researched a lot of Jewish texts and explanations on the great flood and what i found was amazing! some examples of small finding from Jewish texts that are over 2000 years old are 1. before the flood all the continents were together 2. the world was NOT on its axis and had a perpetuated spring time 3. the atmosphere was very thick thus no rainbows were produced until after the flood 4. one of my favorites, G-D started the flood by crashing 2 “stars” into the planet (by stars it means asteroids) there are many more very cool findings but i wanted to share these ,peace.
A few points: Having studied the results, it became clear to us that God moves really fast, for instance: Think about the Great Flood and how it lasted approximately 330 earth days; to God this lasted about 1 minute and 30 seconds.
Think about how quickly God answered your prayers. If you have ever prayed for something and if it took, let’s say, a week to be answered; to God the decision to act and the act itself was contemplated and completed within a matter of about 2 seconds.
Think about the age of the earth. If each God day of creation did indeed last our proposed length of 1000 earth years and if one follows the genealogy from Adam to Abraham, from Abraham to Jesus, and from Jesus to now, then you will arrive at a total age of about 12000 years; to God this is about 12 days.
DIVINECODERS
I’m wondering if the scripture from 2 Peter 3:8 is a paradox or if it is a literal meaning. “As a day” is the statement that makes me unsure. I would appreciate any information you could provide.
Great question! Peter was simply reminding us of Psalms 90:4, which we believe is meant to be taken literally as the difference between Earth time and God time.
We say this based on Genesis where we see the usage of “day” before the creation of the Sun, thus we see God using the word day before an Earth day is even possible, therefore in this case we must be speaking in God time, so instead of 24 hours, we are talking 1000 earth years per God “day”.
Thanks for sharing!
The Forgotten Books of Eden
2 Yea, the Word that will again save thee when the five days and a half are fulfilled.”
3 But when Adam heard these words from God, and of the great five days and a half, he did not understand the meaning of them.
4 For Adam was thinking that there would be but five days and a half for him, to the end of the world.
5 And Adam wept, and prayed God to explain it to him.
6 Then God in His mercy for Adam who was made after His own image and similitude, explained to him, that these were 5,000 and 500 years; and how One
would then come and save him and his seed.
http://sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe008.htm
I meant to say 360 days in a year. Sorry
Something you may find interesting. Read the Book of Enoch, at one time it was canonized scripture prier to 365 AD.in the western Church. I also believe that before the flood there were only 360 years because that is a prophetic year! A big prophecy year that ties to the Christ is; day 9, month 11, year 1938. I would like to see what you find. I also know if I remember right day 7, month 7, year 1977 was the beginning of the end.