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Doomsday 2012: End of the World?

If the world ends in 2012 AD, then we as Christians are in a lot of trouble, because this would mean that the Bible was wrong. There is no record or knowledge that suggests that the end of the Mayan calendar was ever supposed to represent a doomsday scenario.

Not surprisingly, both science and the Bible take the same position on the ‘Mayan Hypothesis’, which is that they do not agree. As a response to counter the mainstream commercialization of the Mayan 2012 doomsday, let’s look at the evidence and put a few minds at ease.

Why Science Disagrees

Just as the calendar on our Windows PC predicts the phases of the Earth’s rotation around the sun and that this cycle ends on Dec. 31st, 2099, so does the Mayan calendar, except the Mayans tracked the Lunar cycle and stopped calculating at the year 2012 AD.

There are no records left behind by the Mayans that suggest that this would mean that the world would end. [1] Instead, conventionally what is suggested by those who have studied the Mayan civilization is that this date represents the end of a celestial epoch.

The only truly significant event represented by the date Dec. 21st, 2012 AD to both science and the Bible is that this date marks the Winter Solstice, which is even more evidence for the epoch theory as this would show why the Mayans had indeed built their calendar.

Science presents another problem for the 2012 prediction because they now believe that the calendar might be wrong by at least 60 days. [2] Researchers now claim that they cannot be sure if the Mayans were tracking a meteor or Venus and that the translation from the Mayan “Long Count” to the Julian and Gregorian calendars has not been resolved. [2]

Why the Bible Disagrees

The book of Revelation provides us with a very detailed description of the second coming of Christ. In fact, the book of Revelation is so precise, even a timeline is provided. This timeline can be used to determine what we can expect from the future in terms of duration.

We turn to the book of Revelation chapter 13 verse 1, which states:

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

We know this is Satan at work, because before this verse in chapter 12 verse 3, we see:

And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

This is how the opposition appeared to God when Heaven and Hell went to war. Now we see this same symbolism repeated from Earth’s perspective due to the combining of nations that many might refer to as the New World Order or the return to Great Babylon.

So, if we are told that the first real sign of the coming of Christ will result in the forming of this seven headed beast with ten horns and seven crowns, then we know that we must still have time to spare since this world government has not yet been established officially.

How much time do we have? This answer is unknown, but we can say that after the following event has taken place that we will have at least a few years longer according to the following verse found in the book of Revelation chapter 13 verse 5, which states:

And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.

So, by calculation we find that, according to the word of the Holy Spirit, we would be given an additional 42 months, which when divided produces the decimal 3.5 years. At this point we do not need to calculate any further, because the world government has yet to appear.

Therefore, according to scripture, even if the New World Order officially established itself on Dec. 21st, 2012 AD, we would still have at least 3.5 years before the coming of Christ, thus the word of God says that the ‘Mayan Hypothesis’ is impossible, and so it must be.

Conclusion

We see that both science and the Bible disagree with the ‘Mayan Hypothesis’, the date 2012 AD does not mark the end of the world, rather it marks the end of a long cycle. Any problems that this could present to mankind are yet to be known, but it is certainly not the end.

DIVINECODERS

Footnotes

1. MacDonald, G. Jeffrey. “Does Maya calendar predict 2012 apocalypse?” USA Today. Gannett Co. Inc, 03/27/2007. Web. <http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2007-03-27-maya-2012_n.htm>.
2. Normark, Johan. “2012: The Long Count may be off by at least 60 days.” Archaeological Haecceities. WordPress, 09 Oct 2010. Web. <http://haecceities.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/2012-the-long-count-may-be-off-by-at-least-60-days/>.

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  1. Don Endsley
    September 16, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    To prove a pre trib rapture one needs to the pictures of Noah and the flood, Enoch, Lot, Isaiah 26:17-21 is pre trib and Chapter 27 is the trib Isaiah 33:17:24 is pre trib and heaven Chaper 34 is the tribulation 1stThess 4:16,17,18 is pre trib ! cor 15: 51-58 1st Thess 5:1-9 We are children of light and and that day {the rapture} should not as a thief. If we are in of a horrible trib and get our heads cut off there is no need of a rapture because most are dying or being killed, REv 3:10 says He will keep us from the hour of Trib Remember This is the church age and the rapture is for the church, The trib is for the last week of Israel Daniel 9:2426 vs 27 is the 7 year trib

    • September 16, 2012 at 2:40 pm

      Actually Rev 3:10 has been taken out of context and does not say that anyone will be saved from tribulation:

      10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

      Which is to say, ‘I will not treat you like unbelievers when I come to judge the earth.’ -and this topic goes beyond our scope.

      11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

      Which is to say, ‘Do not abandon your righteousness that I (Jesus) give to you through my grace.’

      12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

      Which takes us right back to what we said before, one must strive for salvation: endure and be patient. You must overcome that which will test you, you must endure tribulations.

      Isaiah 26:17-21 does not speak about a pretrib rapture, however Isaiah 26:20-21 states:

      20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.

      21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

      Which is to say, ‘Do not take part in the corruption when the great tribulation occurs.’

      Therefore, we are still waiting for your evidence.

      DIVINECODERS

      • Don Endsley
        September 16, 2012 at 3:01 pm

        You who believe we will go thru the trib believe in grace plus works and to think that we can help atone for our sins and become worthy. Romans chapter 3 :21–31, Think of all the christians who are in the grave with no trib. You appear to be boasting of your goodness to earn your spot

      • September 16, 2012 at 3:38 pm

        “You who believe we will go thru the trib believe in grace plus works and to think that we can help atone for our sins and become worthy.”

        Not true, that is not what we are saying. What we are telling you is what the Bible says and we are refraining from adding our own wishful thinking to it so that we can feel better about Revelation Chapter 13 and the fact that it is soon coming and that the signs of its coming are all around us! What do you expect to happen, do you hope that Jesus will rescue you from the evil men who plan to blaspheme God, bankrupt and enslave you, as is explained in Rev 13? What are you waiting for, exactly? A giant UFO to beam you up just before the atom bomb explodes? It’s not going to happen. You are living in tribulations right now! Have you become numb to the attack or what?

        We are reminding you that when the great tribulation does come that you should not take part in the corruption. God will harden the hearts of the unbelievers and there is nothing you can do, which sort of goes into the theory of predestination (something we care not to entertain, but are willing to accept if true), so when your government begins wiping out churches and making it illegal to teach the Gospel, don’t be surprised and do not become violent and react foolishly. God wants us to endure and hide ourselves from the wickedness that is sure to overload our planet, very soon.

        The problem with mankind has and will be until the end, a fear of punishment. POC, Adam said, ‘Eve made me do it!’ and Eve said, ‘The snake tricked me!’, and so it goes that mankind tends to pass the buck. Let’s face it, the theory of pretrib was born out of fear of reprove. If you remain righteous and do good works then surely you will be worthy of atonement, but not by your own grace, but by the grace of God alone will you be worthy of salvation. Only He, our savior, makes you worthy of atonement.

        Unfortunately, some will not be ready to suffer for it.

        DIVINECODERS

      • Don Endsley
        September 16, 2012 at 6:38 pm

        sorry my brother I just don’t see eye to eye with you I leave you with your views

      • September 16, 2012 at 8:34 pm

        We were hoping to see some strong evidence for pretrib rapture from you, however I suppose that wont be possible considering that the Bible almost obsessively talks about tribulations and how we must endure them and at no point does it mention that some of us will get to skip that part. Don’t you think the Christians in Rome would have loved some pretrib rapture just about the time when they let loose the lions? What if you die tomorrow, is that your pretrib rapture? It doesn’t make sense.

        Thanks for sharing!
        DIVINECODERS

  2. Don Endsley
    September 13, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    I believe in the pretrib rapture of the church and I belive the Jewish feats in Lev 23 are the time lines for all that God has done and will do. This fifth feast day called Rosh ha shanah is this weekend Israel will be 70 years old in 2018 minus thr trib should be this year. 1st Thess 4: 16,17 and 18 just happens to be the dates in Sept . Seventeen is the number in Victory, Jesus arose from the grave on the 17th day of the month, Moses crossed the red sea on the 17th day God woke me up one night and told me to read Ps 50:1-5 I wish someone could use the bible code on that along with Isa 26:17-end of chapter Isa 33:17

    • September 16, 2012 at 11:49 am

      Your first mission is to prove that a pretrib rapture is Biblical. What Bible verse(s) do you offer as proof of a pretrib rapture?

      As proof against the pretrib rapture, we offer the following:

      1. Rev 13:5-7

      5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

      6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

      7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

      That would be one tribulation that we must endure before it is all said and done.

      2. Matthew 24:21

      For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

      3. Revelation 7:14

      And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

      And, we could go on and on and on supporting tribulations, after all, this is a biblical viewpoint, God does prove us by fire and does chastise those He loves.

      Perhaps one needs not to be afraid of Death, but more afraid of God. As sinners, we are glad that God has tested and reproved us and we look forward to our final test when Rev 13 comes to pass, so to show that through the grace of Jesus Christ we have been made worthy of atonement and to regain our fellowship with God.

      DIVINECODERS

      • Jim Sisco
        September 25, 2012 at 6:06 am

        Although, I am no scholar and offer no absolute scriptural proof since both yours as well as my own pretrib views are based on ones best interpretation, I shall offer my own thought based on my own personal conviction and interpretation.

        Mathew 24:36
        “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.”

        The way I read this verse, Jesus was not speaking of no man knowing the day and hour of His second coming immediately after the tribulation because many on earth will know the hour of His second coming! Many will revisit long taught prophecies including one that Jesus Himself spoke of in the same 24th chapter of Mathew, i.e, the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet.

        The saints of the verses you have referenced are those saints who have come to the knowledge of Christ after the rapture. The saints after the mid point of the tribulation will include God’s chosen when their eyes are open by the act of the desolation by the antichrist. The imminency of Christ’s return is only possible by a sign-less catching away of the saints who were redeemed before His appearance in the clouds.

        I also believe that the tribulation does not necessarily begin immediately after the rapture. Jesus’ proclamation of no man knowing the day or hour refers to the rapture of the redeemed in Christ before the tribulation and revealing of antichrist.

      • September 25, 2012 at 6:40 pm

        Hi Jim Sisco,

        “many on earth will know the hour of His second coming!”

        How will they know the exact hour? Is this advanced knowledge or are you pointing out that when He is here, then we will know it? Even then, He might have been here for a couple hours before many people come to realize it -half the world will probably be asleep. Truly, Matthew 24:36 is meant to be taken literally. He will come like a thief in the night, which is to say, “as a surprise”. You’ll just be walking your dog down the street and then bang, here comes God through the clouds… it’ll be that abrupt.

        “The saints of the verses you have referenced are those saints who have come to the knowledge of Christ after the rapture.”

        Then these Christians you speak of are YOU and EVERYONE ELSE, because we are here now living in tribulations. I guess we all missed the rapture.

        “I also believe that the tribulation does not necessarily begin immediately after the rapture.”

        Tribulation clearly will occur before “rapture”, because we are living in tribulations right now.

        Listen, we understand the fear many people have, we share them too; however, the facts remain:

        1. We are living in tribulations right now.
        2. Rapture is not biblical, which is why you said, “I am no scholar and offer no absolute scriptural proof”.
        3. The Bible repeatedly mentions enduring tribulations, almost obsessively, because it is that important to understand.
        4. You reap what you sow.

        The bottom-line is this: You will live through tribulations and there will be no rapture, only salvation.

        Thanks for sharing!
        DIVINECODERS

  3. March 29, 2012 at 12:26 am

    I’ve been reading things about 2012 and Planet X and all that good stuff and they all say the same thing: that you’ll be fine if you’re prepared. The thing is they don’t even tell you how to prepare!!! I don’t wanna sound like one of those doomsday world is going to end type of people but I’m actually freaking out a bit.
    Mark

    • March 31, 2012 at 11:05 am

      In the end, bunkers will become mass graves, food supplies and water will become currency, wars will be fought over the basics of life, who here wants to step outside and be greeted by such chaos and attempt to survive in a destitute world?

      To physically prepare for the end of the world by building bunkers or stockpiling resources is the same as putting on a helmet and expecting to survive a .50 caliber gun shot to the head. Death is inevitable and it should not be feared as death is a blessing for which we should be mentally prepared for by realizing that death is merely a new beginning.

      Put your faith in the one true God and that is all you need.

      DIVINECODERS

    • April 26, 2012 at 10:06 pm

      The calender used did not take in account “Leap year ” as we know it. If it did the world would have ended 7 years ago.

      • April 26, 2012 at 10:38 pm

        Good point. We would like to add that the Mayans also made references to future dates within various inscriptions that surpass the year 2012 AD, therefore we can logically deduce that the Mayans clearly did not think the world was going to end in 2012.

  4. Max
    March 11, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    It is even possible that Jesus may come even WAY BEFORE December 21th, 2012. That would take the secular world by surprise.

  5. Son-Of-God
    February 15, 2012 at 8:33 am

    Which earth? Old Jerusalem or the new Jerusalem. Come on folks, break out of your turtle shells. GOD gave us the ultimate book of his word, and yet know one meditates on it, instead they run around like parakeet spouting out what their pasture said, who went to school to learn it from a cookie cutter curriculum. Walk the path that JESUS told us about. Don’t be a clone be.

    • Son-Of-God
      February 15, 2012 at 8:52 am

      The previous comment was for a few of the posters. In this post I would like to address the article/blog that is posted. Quite simply at the end it says science and the bible disagree with the Mayan ‘s about the calendars ‘end of the world’.

      Well here is the problem, if that what the whole article was written for then it was a complete waste of time. Because the actual Mayan ‘s, (not the national geographic Mayan’s). Do not predict and End of the world. They, as you mentioned early in your article see it as the end of a cycle. So if our calendars predict very accurately that a certain month will be the end of summer, we do not question that, because it is evident in the climate and we can see it happen year after year. Now if we could be here every. ?????? years we might also be able to see these other changes. Last comment, I notice that everyone looks at the long count calendar, yet there are many more calendars. I am talking about the Mayan calendars not the Aztec calendars which they changed to suit there own needs.

      In conclusion I disagree with the authors conclusion, perhaps the author was reading from a publicly sanctioned book or articles to get their information.

      • February 15, 2012 at 2:23 pm

        We wrote this article to counter the mainstream commercialization of the Mayan Hypothesis put forth by mainstream media and those who wish to make a profit from spreading a non-biblical doomsday fear scenario.

        Actually, it depends which National Geographic article you are referencing. Here is one debunking the myth:

        http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/11/photogalleries/2012-movie-end-of-the-world-pictures/photo4.html

        Our conclusion is that this doomsday scenario doesn’t just contradict evidence, but more importantly it also contradicts the Bible, therefore our position is that come Dec. 22nd 2012, we’ll all still be here waiting for Christ.

        Thanks for sharing!

  6. February 7, 2012 at 1:05 am

    Does the History of the Mayan Civilization support their ability to forecast the future? Check this out:

    The Maya Civilization reached its zenith around 1000 AD. Historians have debated what led to their slow decline over the next 500 years but there is no debate that it was the invasion by the Spanish that was the beginning of the true end. From 1521 � 1523 the Maya were decimated by disease brought to their country by the Spanish.
    Estimates run as high as 1/3 their population being wiped out (For me that is hard to believe since they were dispersed booth geographically and governmentally across a vast area). Nonetheless this weakened them considerably and led to their first major defeat at Battle of El Pinal and the subsequent capture of the major city of Utatl�n by conquistadores under the command of Pedro de Alvarado in 1524.

    The Spaniards continued invading and spreading throughout Central America until they took over the final Mayan City of Tah Itz� in 1697.

    Now here is where it gets really, really interesting.

    The Mayan believed that time was cyclical with historical events and political events repeating in cycles, cycles measured by their complex calendar system which featured 20 years (7200 days) as one Katun and 13 Katuns as 256 years. And it is that cycle � 13 Katuns, 256 years that repeats and makes the future [predictable.

    And so it was that when the Spaniards came to conquer Tah Itza that it fell without much of a fight. Because most of the Mayans had fled. They knew this final attack was coming. This invasion came 136 days from the start of Katun 8 (the 8th Katun in the 256 year cycle) and this reflects the Mayan prophecy that this was going to be a cosmologically mandated period of change and upheaval for the Maya.

    So the Mayans own Calendar system predicted a cosmologically mandated period of upheaval for them, and that is exactly what happened. Their final major city fell to the Spaniards. They were vanquished as a civilization.

    So if the Mayans cyclical calendar predicted the time of upheaval around the Spaniards assault on Tah Itza, then who is to say that the Maya Calendar end on December 21 2012 is not predicting the end of the world, the 2012 apocalypse?

  7. Trudy
    January 24, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    NO man KNOWS the hour nor day…the Mayan calendar is WRONG…you WILL see and ALL who believe on this are going to feel like fools when it passes and nothing happens. I dont know the future but I KNOW who holds my future and I BELIEVE EVERY WORD my Lord and Master and GOD says..and ONLY to HIM will I TRUST. For those of you who follow anything but JESUS your about to be deceived by satan ….because the world will NOT end on Dec. 21st. KNOW JESUS ..because i BELIEVE we are close to HIS coming but it wont be on the day the myan calendar predicts… YOU WILL SEE. Put your FAITH and TRUST In JESUS. God bless all of you in JESUS name ❤

    • January 27, 2012 at 6:42 am

      We couldn’t agree more — thanks for sharing!

  8. Eric R. W.
    January 24, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    Hey- great article for many reasons.

    From what I heard, is the Mayans weren’t saying that it was going to be the end of the world either but a change. Apparently it marks a major change and some authors state that a spiritual shift is happening from God and changing into the intuition age with higher dimensions of reality. While the devil (aka world order) in my opinion is working to keep us in a lower state of frequency by disrupting the economy & controlling everything. People that don’t let it effect them are in a higher frequency and are supposed to move into their Christ self in this intuition age.

    • January 27, 2012 at 7:36 am

      This sounds logical on the surface, however we must compare this theory with what the Bible has to say about meekness and know that to be meek, you must be what could be thought of as a “low frequency” and that these will inherit the earth. (Mat 5:5)

      Thanks for sharing. 🙂

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